A controversial tweet from a Sam Houston State junior has inflamed social media and may result in disciplinary action from the university.
Junior English major Monica Foy is under investigation after allegations surfaced on Brietbart.com, a conservative news site, that Foy tweeted a recently murdered Harris County Sheriff’s deputy had “creepy perv eyes” and may have deserved his death.
In response, the university took to their official social media pages and criticized the tweet.
“SHSU appreciates the enormous public response in support of law enforcement. The university is a leader in educating many people who work in criminal justice and those who protect the civil liberties this country was founded upon, including free speech, whether we agree with that speech or not.”
“SHSU has a strong Student Code of Conduct. The student’s remarks will be evaluated to determine if the code was violated following standardized due process. The university has an ongoing commitment to taking actions that strengthen dialog and understanding between our students and the law enforcement community.”
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Ms. Foy's tweet regarding the death of Officer Goforth is sickening. The negative publicity she will now bring to SHSU should give pause to school superiors who will hopefully discipline her. Even morons like Foy have constitutional rights. SHSU should consider these rights when dealing with her, however, consideration should also be given to the safety of the campus should people decide to protest her comments on campus.
She will never get a decent job in the U.S. Those posts will never go away.
She sure wont
She'll (sadly) likely land a great job on a sensationalist news network that also seeks to undermine ethics, morals, and values. See: Melissa Harris-Perry.
Here you go, Monica. Tell them about it.
she does not have the courage to face her words. That is why she deleted all her social media accounts.
She can always get a job in Fast Food. Heaven knows she's had ample experience with fast food...
Sorry but student code has nothing to do with infringing on her "constitutional rights"
Ms. Monica Foy tweets were insensitive,cruel,disgusting, repugnant, malicious, totally unacceptable. She did not put herself in the position that the family, friends and ALL law enforcement are dealing with in the loss of this officer that was not just an officer but a husband, a father, a son and a friend to someone. Is obvious that she did not think this through before she opened her BIG mouth. Now she has to suffer the wrath of her STUPIDITY.
Expel her. We're paying for her education anyway.
OK. She probably has no firiends, no life and is looking for attention and to belong to something. She is a disgusting excuse for a person! She should be ashamed of herself for saying such stupid things! All lives matter honey! And I wouldn't say anything about anyones looks if I were you!
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I hope this follows her the rest of her life. Yes she has rights but that officer had rights also at least his life had meaning more so then Monica Foy life ever will she seems as a spoiled & insensitive child.
She has the right to free speach, but so do I. I hope she has to answer for these comments during a job interview or loan application process. She better hope that these same police officers in the Woodlands believe she has the right to speak her mind when she asks for help.
I agree, but to make such a statement shows disregard for human life. I would say the same if any
officer had shot any other person regardless of race in the same fashion he was murdered.
The cops will help her anyway.
Ok ,,, next time she is the victim of a crime she can call a crackhead.
BLM will help too!
As an SHSU alumni I would hope this Student is expelled. Saying a police officer deserved to be murdered promotes violence. A campus should be a safe environment for students and police officers.
A campus should be a safe environment for both the police officers and the students. Stating a police officer deserved to die "because he had perv eyes" creates a threat to the campus. She is obviously mentally disturbed. As a SHSU alumni anything less than expulsion is unacceptable.
Very well said. No hope more alumi speak up in the following days.
Three words:
What an idiot!
It's a campus-wide culture of pervy eyes! What's a girl to do?
"15 minutes of fame". Done. Lifetime of shame. Coming up.
Bwahahaha
How do ya like America now Monica?
^^^ Breitbart scum gone wild ^^^
She's indicative of they type of low information moron that uses twatter.
This response to her comment is part of the problem in this country people. Yes, this girl was being a callous idiot when she wrote her comments. Her comments were shockingly disgusting. But here's the important part people - she has the right to express her shockingly disgusting callous and idiotic viewpoint without being penalized by her college. Good grief! We have to stop censoring people that we disagree with...even if we disagree really strongly!
No one is censoring her! She's being held accountable for her statements that glorify a murder. Learn the difference before speaking to something erroneously.... haven't you learned from Monica Foy's lesson of think before you speak? 🙂
Thank you for your thoughtful advice, but it was unnecessary. If she ends up being sanctioned by her college for insensitive/stupid comments she made on the interest, then that's an attempt to censor such commentary. The college has no business doing that.
Silly... sanctioning someobe and censoring someone are two different things. She can keep speaking whatever she wants... supporting theurder of police, day she supports beheading people to who are infidels, supporting violence against people... she is still free to do that. I guess the extremist view is that her supporting murder shills be tolerated in the name of tolerance.
The purpose of sanctioning her would be censorship -- in other words to prevent her or others from making such remarks in the future. They are different things, but nonetheless related.
As to your last comment: As awful as it is to say and hear, yes, her statement claiming the murder was justified MUST be permitted, because she is not INCITING (i.e. causing) violence to someone. In fact, such statements are already permitted everywhere you look today. People speak up in support of a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy all the time. It is part of the political discourse going on in this country. I'm pro-choice too, but I have to admit that there is a large contingent of the populace that views abortion as murder.
As to the consequences of her choice--of course there will be consequences. She may lose friends, lose potential future employers, etc. But when the consequences imposed are to an extent and a nature that they are designed to prevent her or others from expressing such opinions in the future (such as a college's code of conduct), we have to pay really close attention...becomes it gets closer and closer to being censorship.
My post was criticizing the CULTURE of censorship that has developed in this country since the 1980s. So many people are so concerned about avoiding hurting other people's feelings (or offending others) that we have turned into a society in which you have to be "politically correct" or else you suffer in your personal life in unfair ways for expressing your opinion. I'm all for reaping the natural consequences of what you sow. For example, the band "Dixie Chicks" which was hugely popular several years ago lost a huge amount of public support (and eventually broke up) after the lead singer made some strong public statements as to what she thought of then-President Bush. Many of the fans stopped supporting them, because they didn't want to give their money to a group that spouting that kind of rhetoric. In the instance of this girl, she was tweeting something on the Internet--not talking out loud in class or at a school event.
What business is it of the school's what she has to say in public on this matter. It simply has nothing to do with the school, and so any "punishment" meted out by the school is inappropriate.
Yes she has the freedom of speech, but that only protects you from Government, not your school or job. If you represent either in a negative light like this, they can, and a lot of time do, fire you, or expel you.
Thank you for saying something intelligent.
Justin, while I agree with you that freedom of speech only means protection from the government, in this case that's a bit of a sticky wicket since Sam Houston University is a State school and therefore could be argued to be part of the government.
Even though SHSU is a publicly funded institution, attendance is a privilege, not a right, as evidenced by their entry requirements and requirements to maintain a passing GPA. SHSU also has a code of conduct for maintaining the privilege of continued attendance, and if she violated that code of conduct, then her right to free speech would not be violated under any kind of punishment.
I'm not talking about her legal rights here folks - I'm criticizing the CULTURE of censorship that has developed in this country since the 1980s. So many people are so concerned about avoiding hurting other people's feelings that we have turned into a society in which you have to be "politically correct" or else you suffer in your personal life in unfair ways for expressing your opinion. I'm all for natural consequences. For example, the band "Dixie Chicks" which was hugely popular several years ago lost a huge amount of public support (and eventually broke up) after the lead singer made some strong public statements as to what she thought of then-President Bush. Many of the fans stopped supporting them, because they didn't want to give their money to a group that spouting that kind of rhetoric. In the instance of this girl, she was tweeting something on the Internet--not talking out loud in class or at a school event. What business is it of the school's what she has to say in public on this matter. It simply has nothing to do with the school, and so any "punishment" meted out by the school is inappropriate.
If you were in junior high, there would be excuse for your ignorance. There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech, and certainly not anything resembling freedom of thought. Ask the philosophy department to explain it to you - in short words and with lots of pictures..
Your reply is nonsensical, and in typical fascist/liberal style--it comes in the form of a personal insult rather than a substantive discussion of facts. I guess that's because you have no real value to add to the conversation?
Thats right she does have that right as do we all. She DOES NOT have the right to avoid the consequences of using that freedom of speech. So what was your point again? You have the right to go into a crowded theater and yell fire, but you also have the right to be arrested, sued by every individual hurt. Thats why most people THINK before doing stupid crap like this.
While people like yourself enable them by making stupid comments about their right to freely speak.
She and people like her are part of the problem in society today. They think they can hide behind their keyboard and spew their ignorant stupidity with ZERO repercussions. Justice can be so sweet...
As I said above, I'm not talking about her legal RIGHTS here - I'm criticizing the CULTURE of censorship that has developed in this country since the 1980s. So many people are so concerned about avoiding hurting other people's feelings that we have turned into a society in which you have to be "politically correct" or else you suffer in your personal life in unfair ways for expressing your opinion. I'm all for reaping the natural consequences of what you sow. For example, the band "Dixie Chicks" which was hugely popular several years ago lost a huge amount of public support (and eventually broke up) after the lead singer made some strong public statements as to what she thought of then-President Bush. Many of the fans stopped supporting them, because they didn't want to give their money to a group that spouting that kind of rhetoric. In the instance of this girl, she was tweeting something on the Internet--not talking out loud in class or at a school event. What business is it of the school's what she has to say in public on this matter. It simply has nothing to do with the school, and so any "punishment" meted out by the school is inappropriate.
And no, you don't have the right to go into a crowded theater and yell fire--because by doing so you cause a panic in the theater that could cause many people to get injured. But that's not what she did here - she isn't causing injury to occur - she's simply putting her opinion (which I find absolutely abhorrent) out there. If we want to protect our ability to express our own opinions in public (no matter how unpopular they may be) to be protected, we have to equally seek to protect this girl's ability to express her ignorance in public without UNFAIR retribution.
I agree with your argument about free speech....to a certain extent. What she said was beyond ignorant and insensitive. That point aside, why is what she said not considered hate speech? If someone said anything even remotely similar about any minority group it would be considered racist and hateful. Furthermore, "free speech" that hints at advocating violence against law enforcement is not something that can or should be tolerated in our society.
This angle... " hints at advocating violence against law enforcement is not something that can or should be tolerated in our society." I agree on 100%. But that is the only angle I think would hold water in any code of conduct from her school or even potential criminal punishment.
I agree that if she were to continue to speak out, she might possibly say something that incites violence against law enforcement...but I don't think she has gone there yet. And I think this is the REAL discussion that should be taking place. Is she inciting violence against the police? If so, shut her down. But even merely advocating wouldn't be enough, because her personal opinion as to whether violence is justified against police doesn't place blame on her for anything...unless it is sufficiently moving to CAUSE other people to engage in such violence (i.e. incite).
As to the question of whether this is "hate speech"... that's a whole separate discussion. "Hate speech" is pretty, pleasant, or acceptable. But the idea of rendering "hate speech" unlawful is itself a censorship issue. It's very popular these days to label anything that offends people as "hate speech" as a way to try to shut it down. And this is strongly contributing to the culture of censorship of dissent in this country. The risks attendant to that practice are HUGE. For example - anyone who criticizes Obama or any position he takes are habitually explained away as "racist" comments these days - or hate speech. Really? That's the most effective way I know to shut down political discourse--which we desperately need (even from people we disagree with) if we're going to maintain our freedoms. Do I want to listen to "hate speech"? Heck no. But if I come across it, I simply leave or shut off the source. The risks of doing anything else are too great.
She needs to show decency.
as a member of black lives matter she probably doesnt know what that word is
Yeah, that would be nice. But not everyone is nice. The question is: should the college be viewed as acting appropriately if it censors her for expressing her personal opinion in a manner that is not connected with the school simply because they don't like her opinion? NO.
I support her 1st amendment right but she's about to realize how powerful words can be
She is a representative of SHSU whether she likes it or not. She won't go to jail for her comments, but there are consequences.
She did go to jail for her comments. Lol. Albeit indirectly.
That's ridiculous. She is not a representative. She is a student at the school -- in other words, a customer. She is not speaking on behalf of the school, nor claiming to do so. The school has made this more of an issue for itself by speaking up and identifying itself as her college and getting involved here.
First of all you need to learn about what you are saying before you say it. Freedom of speech only applies to backlash from the federal government not from your school, work, etc.
As I said above, I'm not talking about her legal RIGHTS here - I'm criticizing the CULTURE of censorship that has developed in this country since the 1980s. So many people are so concerned about avoiding hurting other people's feelings that we have turned into a society in which you have to be "politically correct" or else you suffer in your personal life in unfair ways for expressing your opinion. I'm all for reaping the natural consequences of what you sow. For example, the band "Dixie Chicks" which was hugely popular several years ago lost a huge amount of public support (and eventually broke up) after the lead singer made some strong public statements as to what she thought of then-President Bush. Many of the fans stopped supporting them, because they didn't want to give their money to a group that spouting that kind of rhetoric. In the instance of this girl, she was tweeting something on the Internet--not talking out loud in class or at a school event. What business is it of the school's what she has to say in public on this matter. It simply has nothing to do with the school, and so any "punishment" meted out by the school is inappropriate.
its a code of conduct every student agrees too. Look at Kurt Schilling. Booted off of ESPN because of a tweet, and it wasn't that bad. Yes it's free speech, but it has consequences.
The point I'm making is that I don't believe its appropriate for the college to address such things in its code of conduct at all.
As I said above, I'm not talking about her legal RIGHTS here - I'm criticizing the CULTURE of censorship that has developed in this country since the 1980s. So many people are so concerned about avoiding hurting other people's feelings that we have turned into a society in which you have to be "politically correct" or else you suffer in your personal life in unfair ways for expressing your opinion. I'm all for reaping the natural consequences of what you sow. For example, the band "Dixie Chicks" which was hugely popular several years ago lost a huge amount of public support (and eventually broke up) after the lead singer made some strong public statements as to what she thought of then-President Bush. Many of the fans stopped supporting them, because they didn't want to give their money to a group that spouting that kind of rhetoric. In the instance of this girl, she was tweeting something on the Internet--not talking out loud in class or at a school event. What business is it of the school's what she has to say in public on this matter. It simply has nothing to do with the school, and so any "punishment" meted out by the school is inappropriate.
You have the right to say whatever you want, buy you also have to deal with the consequences of that speech. People have the same right to let her know what they think of her speech, and the university has the right to decide who they want as students. And future employers (should she ever try to get a job) have the right to not hire someone who clearly lacks good judgement and publicly makes controversial statenents. If she wanted to make this comment without consequences , she shouldn't have used a public forum to do so. Send it to your friends via text. Of course, you may then loose said friends because who wants to be friends with someone so shallow, callous, and dumb. Apparently it's going to take her 10 years to earn a 4 year degree.
I agree with much of what you say. But the main point I'm making is that I'm criticizing the CULTURE of censorship that has developed in this country since the 1980s. So many people are so concerned about avoiding hurting other people's feelings that we have turned into a society in which you have to be "politically correct" or else you suffer in your personal life in unfair ways for expressing your opinion. I'm all for reaping the natural consequences of what you sow. For example, the band "Dixie Chicks" which was hugely popular several years ago lost a huge amount of public support (and eventually broke up) after the lead singer made some strong public statements as to what she thought of then-President Bush. Many of the fans stopped supporting them, because they didn't want to give their money to a group that spouting that kind of rhetoric. In the instance of this girl, she was tweeting something on the Internet--not talking out loud in class or at a school event. What business is it of the school's what she has to say in public on this matter. It simply has nothing to do with the school, and so any "punishment" meted out by the school is inappropriate. Do they have the RIGHT to decide they don't want her as a student based on her comments? Sure. But that doesn't mean its a good idea for colleges to engage in such behavior.
Her statement absolutely impacted the school. She made it publicly available that she was a student there. Because of that, like it or not, she became a representative of the university. Their code of conduct does not just apply when she is on campus or in class. It is a statement of what type of student they want at their school and what they will and will not tolerate from their students. This school has a close bond with law enforcement and educates many in criminal justice ( police officers and those hoping to become police officers). Her statement made them look hypocritical and jeopardized that relationship. And then when she calls herself "your friendly local weed dealer" and has an outstanding warrant for assault causing injury (warrant because she skipped court) the sum of these things is that she is not the type of student they want representing them. They don't want her going out into the world and making such statements with their name forever attached to hers through the diploma they gave her. Every University has different priorities and goals for their students. Someone making statements like hers is obviously a bad fit for this school. Attending her University is a privilege, not a right, just as it is with any University, publicly funded or not. That's why prospective students must apply, and many are rejected. If she wanted to spout her ignorance and hatred, she should do it without posting where she goes to school, etc. because it links her statements to them. It is also why the university has the right to expel students for behaviors they deem unacceptable, whether they occurred on campus or not (think of rapes at off campus fraternities -- it didn't occur on campus, but it concerns the school, and they have the right to expel students for it. Its also criminal conduct, same as she had committed earlier.) Its not censorship its common sense. Your example of Dixie Chicks is a perfect example. They spouted hatred and ignorance and lost fans and support because of it. They weren't censored, they just reaped the natural consequences of their actions. Same with this case. She wasn't censored. She was allowed to say whatever she wanted. But she has to face all the consequences of her actions, whether she realized that would happen or not. Do you think Dixie Chicks would have made the same statement if they'd known their fan base would evaporate? My point is that you seem to be confusing censorship with consequences. China has censorship. They will not allow certain things to be posted, or even certain words to be searched. Dixie chicks said what they wanted and everyone else made up their minds about whether to continue supporting them or not. Same here. The student spoke her mind, and everyone, school included, made up their mind about their continued support of her. Censorship is if Twitter had blocked her comment because they deemed it inappropriate. The only one destroying her life is her and her big mouth.
She is a SJW...and therefore would be the first to want to censure me or anyone else who goes against her ideology...yet you now want me to be sympathetic to her when she gets caught in a system she helped support? If you don't like heat then get out of the kitchen...pay back is a well...you know.
I understand what you're saying about the double-standard, but that's a good enough reason to condone punishment by the college. Don't get me wrong - I don't feel sympathetic toward her at all. But we have to stand up against the CULTURE of censorship that has developed in this country since the 1980s--even when doing so means we have to stand up for it when someone we strongly disagrees with is getting censored.
She has the right to express her stupidity. We also have the right to express our extreme distaste for her stupidity. And the school has a right to its student code of conduct, which she agreed to when she became a student. Those are called consequences for one's actions, and maybe if she had learned about consequences as a child she would be a more respectful adult.
everyone has a right to free speech, however there an also be consequences in what is said
Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence. She said something stupid and put it online, where it is no longer under her direct control. The nature of what she said made it basically inevitable that it would go viral, so my belief is that she wanted internet celebrity. Basically, standard 5-year-old (or politician) mentality: no such thing as bad attention.
The criticism she's enduring because of the manner in which she elected to utilize her freedom of speech is a direct consequence, also inevitable really; and completely deserved. SHSU, for its part, is handling this perfectly. They're investigating it to see if it WAS a violation of the code of conduct. They aren't treating her unfairly, or differently than they would anyone else who was reported to have potentially violated that code. Honestly, they're being EXTREMELY even handed about it, much more so than the public would like them to be.
If what she said happens to in some way infringe on the universities codified conduct rules, then you're only half right: she has every right to post her idiocy... but she isn't freed from the consequences of violating code just because she used words to do it.
Gee I wonder how many people on campus she thinks deserve to die because they in her opinion have perv eyes? She is obviously disturbed (I read her other tweets yesterday). She is a threat to the campus security.
On her YouTube account "Monica Foy" she posted a video titled "Hello Kids!" where she admits to being "Your friendly neighborhood pot dealer." She also admit to being high and doesn't even know the day of the week. I hope the university and law enforcement agencies look into this person further.
What an admitted drug dealer is doing at SHSU (a school that has such a strong connection to law enforcement and criminal justice) is beyond me. Shameful in so many levels!
Note: the link to the video doesnt display, I tried!
Interesting. When my partners and I interview candidates for employment we always check out their social media posts. If we read garbage like this the interview is off and the cv goes in the trash.
Hello Kids!
www . youtube . com / watch?v=bAQzbm7L5vY
Sow
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BUSTED!
www . mctx . org / mcso / JailRosterDetail.asp?jailid=458224
Confirmed. She is a guest of the Sheriff of Montgomery County.
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Paddy, link brings up 2 males. 1 for indecency with a child, 1 for murder. What. And is arrested with? Foy, Monica doesn't get a response. Clue as to what I did wrong?
They need to arrest her and her parents should be ashamed.
She can't be arrested for free speech, however she does admi on her YouTube account to being a pot dealer. They can work with that I'm sure 🙂
shes a member of black lives matter, a group that should be labled a domestic terrorist group
She was arrested....for an outstanding warrant (because she skipped court) for "assault causing injury." Here's a hint for her..when you have a warrant out for your arrest, keep your stupid mouth shut on social media. She couldn't have called more attention from law enforcement to herself if she tried.
Young students adjusting to Twitter should be allowed to make silly mistakes without being lynched. Please allow young people to grow up. (Many people new to Twitter don't realize it is not just text messages with friends and that attempts at humor can publicly backfire.) If you are an SHSU alum, feel free to get on Monica's case ONLY if you NEVER did something stupid while you were on campus.
Ken, it is not like she is some young kid that does not know any better. She is an adult and a Junior in college and should have known that saying these things is not right. I am a SHSU Alum and I am ashamed my school is in the news for all the wrong reasons.
She sent a tweet to several dozen followers, unaware that a hash tag makes it public. Someone picked it up and made it viral.
I am proud that SHSU cares about helping young people learn, grow, improve from their mistakes. It probably helped you too learn from stupid stuff you did.... (I hope so.) Give some grace in a media firestorm over a tweet that was not meant to be public. The officer's killing is a horrible tragedy. Please don't focus your anger over that tragedy onto a young immature student who thought she was sending a private message.
Youre an idiot.
I disagree with your name calling, however you are accurate in your analysis of his ludicrous reasoning. Shame that it is this reasoning that is being taught to young and not so young people like Foy.
Please quit while you're behind. A horse's behind, I might add.
A big horse's a$$.
I'm glad it wasn't private. Maybe more of her tweets and social media visits needs some scrutiny.
her twitter and facebook have been deleted unfortunately
She lacks the courage to defend her convictions.Not surprised.
28 is old enough to understand that poorly chosen words at a poorly chosen time will have consequences. Asking that people simply ignore them because they (obviously) came from someone lacking in maturity, is asking people to give her license to continue to BE immature.
But the problem with asking that is this: we don't owe her that. We are not her family or loved ones who will overlook this inappropriate "joke" or "private message" because we love her. I'm certain she wishes that was the case now, but it simply isn't. She went online, a place that by its very nature makes every word you type and image you post something you no longer have control of the second you post it. If, by age 28, she has not come to understand that simple reality then she DESERVES to be judged for her stupidity, not coddled for it as if she's a 5 year old who just discovered that the stove is hot.
*note: she deserves criticism, and possibly consequences from SHSU/job/etc... but she doesn't deserve violence in any measure, as some have suggested. Honestly, those suggestions are as moronic as her tweet was, and for basically the same reason.
You are an idiot Ken.
stop trying to make excuses for this blacklivesmatter supporter.
it dont mattter if the tweet was meant to be private or not. the fact that people know about it and that someone actually thinks another human being deserves to be killed is disturbing in itself
and if you dont believe that, then your part of the problem as well
Maybe the better story here is the lengths a Sam Houston State University Mathematics Professor to defend someone and excuse the actions of a sociopath. Do you even find it strange she was arrested for assault? Of course you don't. But she's a good kid ... right Ken? People arrested for outstanding assault warrants are the salt of the Earth ... Right Ken? One thing is for sure. I sure as heck will not call you "Professor" especially with that picture of you with that stupid and ridiculous hat you are wearing. Do you really think it looks good?
Do you know for a fact that she was unaware about the hashtag ?? I find it ludicrous that a 28 year old woman who literally grew up with the internet didn't know what she was doing. Stop making excuses for her and trying to deflect back on others about mistakes we may have made. Tweets by their very nature are public and she more likely than not knew what she was doing. Freedom of speech does not mean you are free from consequences of your poor judgement or self righteousness.
All Tweets are public. Everyone knows this. She knew exactly what she was doing and must now face the consequences of her actions.
Shielding people from the consequences of their actions will teach them nothing and only encourage said behavior.
She's a junior. She knew what she was doing. Don't giver her an excuse because of her age. She knew she wasn't sending a privet message. That is laughable.
It appears that she is a very experienced Twitter user...possibly immature...but 26 years of age is hardly "young" in my opinion. Besides, how many times has the public gotten hold of a video that was intended to be shared only with a select circle or an e-mail that was sent to a few but shared with many and the outcome has been detrimental to the "innocent" sender? Anyone over the age of 10 knows that if it's put out into the twitterverse, there's a chance it's going to spread. She took that chance. It spread. Her name will now forever be linked with her hateful rhetoric. What do you think her employment chances are once she's out of Sam Houston? I almost feel sorry for her, but she's a fool.
She's 28 years old...that's not a young student, that's old enough to know better.
the "twitter-sphere" is not limited to the SHSU campus. Why are you only giving alumni a license to lambaste her? Silly mistake? Tell that to the family of the slain officer. I have done dumb things and took my lumps like I deserved. She needs/ deserves to do the same. Her words are disgusting. If she had tweeted something as egregious about a minority group, she would likely have been booted from the school.
Um....I am sick of our universities pushing this leftist anti-American crap. We have all done things stupid, BUT this beyond stupid. Instead this is openly joining a group of people who hate America, who want to destroy the republic, and is racist toward white people (even though Roy is a self hating white person). At some point a long time ago my sympathy and tolerance for these leftist "students" ran out. It was not a mistake...she knew full well what she said and why she said it.
Absolutely!
She is a college student, NOT a preschool toddler. If she is old enough, albeit, not wise enough to write this kind of crap, she is old enough to face the consequences. I hope no cop responds if she ever needs to call 911.
Excuse me, sir... this girl says the officer may have deserved to die because of his eyes looking creepy. You think that this was a stupid mistake? This was intentional and done as an adult. She appears 'unperfect'. should someone say she may deserved the same fate? Don't encourage this behavior. she is an adult and she knew exactly what she was saying. Hopefully, some young underdeveloped mind don't latch on to it and do further harm to our forces who are out defending the community. That would be tragic. And she would be blood guilty.
Nice attempt to deflect. She's an adult, not a child. Liberal professors making excuses for idiots is part of the problem in America.
Professor...you are defending a young woman, not a child. I hope her parents are not happy about this..oh, that's right, she is over 18, so her parents can't do anything about what she says or does, perhaps supplying the money would be an exception. Yes, kids make mistakes, but not this kind of dileberate mistake. You have a chance to help students see that what they say and do has ramifications...let her take the heat for her remarks, it is a 'teaching' point that she hasn't learned or does not care...let's hope it is the former.
Hmm, now adulthood no longer begins at age 26? What is the new 18, 48?
Ken are you really defending someone who NON-jokingly said a police officer deserved to die? What's absurd is you calling it a mistake we've all made? Get over yourself and go hug a freaking tree. This wasn't an attempt at humor and the problem with younger people is actually people like you who do not want to hold anyone accountable. Life is about accountability buddy. This girl has been using Twitter longer than most of the world. She needs to own this mistake, apologize, and move on. Or is that too much to ask of her according to your tree-hugging values?
Maybe someone needs to re-evaluate your position as a Mathematics Professor at SHSU. You might need to join her as an ex-academic.
She was arrested for an outstanding warrant in Harris County for assault causing bodily injury. She has posted a u-tube boasting that she deal drugs. It seems that she is not exactly a naive young kid, but an actual scofflaw. Even without this history, if you think advocating or cheering a murder is acceptable youthful behavior, then you, sir, are part of the problem.
your comments lead me to believe that you could be an idiot OR that you support what she said OR that you have no freaking clue what she said.
she says an officer DESERVED TO DIE... IF YOUI AGREE WITH THIS, then you really are as stupid as she is
And while we are making these (increasingly broadened) allowances, who is supposed to pay the tab on their stupidity - YOU? People learn by associating consequences with their actions. What they learn from being pampered and coddled is there are no consequences and they are allowed to enjoy the same liberties without responsibility that they have all their lives. Instead of simply subsidizing these "mistakes", you need to act like a responsible adult and call her on it.
Ooh rahh
Young student adjusting to Twitter?
Please. She's 26 years old, and people her age effectively grew up with Twitter. She knew exactly what she was doing and how Twitter works.
You're being an apologist.
she has send over 4,000 tweets before this. She knows twitter. I went there. NEVER did anything stupid on campus. Not worth the backlash as this stupid woman is now learning.
I am an alum and I never did anything stupid on campus. You on the other hand are defending an individual who is a threat to your campus.
I'm probably younger than her and I know what she said was wrong, if she doesn't know what she did wrong then that's how she's going to be the rest of her life. Don't make excuses for some ignorant girl just because she's young. She doesn't need to be defended she needs to be in jail for saying someone deserved to die.
She has a creepy pervy smile.someone please shoot her.
Did you just call for someone to kill the SHSU student???
Why not, that's what she believes so to each his own.
Angels Eyes perhaps meant with the flu vaccine, that season is around the corner.
so how does your comment not make you just as bad as her?
she just needs some guidance. Start with taking the spoon away from her from prodigious serving plate.
I think SHSU should suspend Ms Foy from further study at this fine institution of higher learning...She appears to be deficient of mental facilities to warrant pursuing a degree in anything at any school.....
Glad SHSU has a backbone. Now follow through and get rid of this "stoodint."
Thanks for your service brother..Semper Fi
Shes my age, see what having good parents that teach you values vs degenerate parents
how do you know her parents are degenerates? perhaps she is just misguided and ignorant to what is socially acceptable
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As much as I disagree with her tweet, she still has the right to free speech. She is not calling for anyone's death. She is wrong, of course, but she has the right to be wrong. I do not think her school career should be affected since what she says has no connection with the school she is attending. We are not drones and we do not give up our individual freedoms by taking a job or a class. What people do on their own time on their own social account is their business. It should remain their business and not affect their work or school activities.
Sorry, but you're wrong. You do give up some of your rights by taking a job or attending a school. If you believe otherwise go ahead and tweet something like this out and see how your employer deals with you. People get fired everyday because of things they say and not just on social media.
State schools must adhere to a substantially different standard. All citizens are entitled to access to state schools, and therefore they cannot have exclusionary standards, nor can they restrict access without due process. Only private schools and religious schools have that right.
Wrong again. You violate a school's code of conduct you suffer the consequences.
Not so fast. If a student is punished by a state school for violating a code of conduct that (like SHSU's) is unconstitutional, the student can sue the school and they will win.
Nope. There is precedent here and it is in favor of the university. Besides her violation of student conduct will likely be because of her criminal charge and failure to appear in court.
I know they do.. I just think its wrong.
We are still individuals with opinions and thoughts. I am not condoning what she said. It makes me sick. Just like those burning flags make me sick. However, I will agree that they have the 'right' to do and say these things. Like it or not.
Workplaces and schools should not try to control employees and students outside the hours and minutes they are at work or school. Additionally, we need to stop holding schools and businesses accountable for what their employees and students say. They have no control over individual feelings, opinions, thoughts or actions. This should be embraced, not fought.
Embraced? No. Students are expected to act with a minimum level of decency. Schools admit student largely based on their character.
Not 'embrace' what she said. Embrace the right to say it.
She does have the right to say it, but that doesn't absolve her of consequences. Speech is subject to consequences. She can embrace those.
In fact, I'd go as far as arguing this moron has created a hostile learning environment for other students, particularly considering this school has a large body of criminal justice students.
That's a little too far, IMO. She made a stupid and cruel statement, but she is not putting anyone in danger.. except maybe herself.
It was no longer her own business, once she posted her disgusting comments on social media. That makes her comments EVERYONE'S business! She will pay BIG TIME for her comments!
I agree it was a disgusting and outrageous comment, but, if we start limiting people's ability to speak their minds .. no matter how repulsive, we chip away at our own rights. I get that there are rules 'in the workplace' and 'on campus'.. but personal freedoms are just that.. personal freedoms.
We also can not be selective about what is allowed and what is not.. so she can't say what she said, but black panthers and BLM can declare a race war and ask for members to start killing cops and white people. Same with KKK.. they can not say what they want to say without retaliation, but others are AOK to spew their hate. It can not be a double-standard.
I know that the way society is right now, we become outraged at a comment or a statement and can destroy a person forever. We need to be aware of that. People have moments and say things in anger or just spurt out idiotic things any day or every day. We should not forget that we all say things we don't mean and even some of us say things we do mean that are not PC... but the bottom line is we can say whatever we like as long as we are not making threats to commit crimes. If we start taking other people's rights away, we can not complain when ours go out the window. if we are held to workplace or school standards 24/7 365, we lose our individuality and our freedom of speech and expression. Its a slippery slope.
It is a slippery slope when censorship rears its head. She had the right to say what she did. She also needs to learn there are consequences for one's actions. Personally I feel people who resort to name calling, or referencing how one looks, or talks, or writes, or spells, as not being able to come up with an intelligent response to what I see as her schoolyard reference to his eyes in her original tweet.
I prefer people who have a rationale response that does not result in primary schoolyard taunts. HOWEVER those people who do use schoolyard taunts are also protected by free speech (with some exceptions, i.e. Yelling fire in a crowded space, etc)
I see she has already deleted her facebook and twitter account, hopefully she is learning there are consequences for her idiotic comment. Hopefully she will recognize those that post against her have the same rights she does. Although, in my opinion, she probably does not understand that.
You are confusing censorship with consequences. Censorship is what they have in China where you cannont even post certain phrases or words, or even search for them. Twitter did not block her hateful comment. They allowed her to say whatever she wanted. She just has to face ALLl the consequences of that comment, including her violation of her school's code of conduct (which probably also bans criminal activity....her warrant (due to skipping court) on a charge of "assault causing injury." My bet is the school will use the criminal activity as the reason for punishing her. But even if they choose to use her hateful speech as the reason for expelling her, they are protected by precedent. She violated one of the terms of admission to the school.
Sorry for not being clear, I did not want to imply I thought censorship had occurred. It did not occur, however in some of the posts it seems as if some people would like to censor her speech. And when censorship occurs it is a slippery slope except in the cases like the example of yelling fire in a crowded place.
I think all of you are missing my point. She will pay. She was wrong, but her right to say it is what I am pointing out.. the school, businesses, clubs.. they can not/should not regulate or try to control our behavior or thoughts or opinions when we are on our own time.
Every single article about her disgusting comment lists that she is a Junior at Same Houston University. You think that doesn't affect the school? The school has cultivated a strong relationship with law enforcement, and this moron comes along and spews hate towards them. She's damaging that relationship. The school has the right to punish her for that.
That is partly why I feel its wrong to connect people with places of business or schools or what have you. It is not the fault of the school or where she works, who her parents are, who her friends are. It is HER deal, her mistake, her right to that mistake. Simply providing a service to some one who is not likable should NOT make the service provider unlikable.
We .. as a whole.. need to stop allowing companies and schools and clubs to be punished for what an individual does. Then we would not have these conversations about what anyone is 'allowed' to say and who or what will be affected.
First amendment only says "Congress shall make no laws...abridging the freedom of speech." It doesn't say a dang thing about what ticked off citizens will help the police find out about you.
I get that lol
I am not condoning what she said, just that she has the right to say it. I am also not disapproving of the reaction she is getting .. except for the school issue. It should be separate.
The school has its own conduct code that students agree to. Potentially, she (may have) given up her right in exchange for being a student there. Interesting that colleges, the hotbeds of protest in the 60s are the centers of sheepism today.
The right to free speech, yes. But it does not free her from consequences of her free speech. People have been fired for their "free speech".
The school has a code of honor, which she voluntarily agreed to as a condition of admission. She violated that code. They have every right to mete out whatever punishment they deem appropriate for that violation. And her comments about being "your friendly local weed dealer", or her warrant for "assault causing injury" probably also violate that code of honor. Take your pick, but she violated the school's rules, and there are consequences for that.
take her buckets of chicken away and her Twinkies I hope her and her family get shot
this is a disgraceful thing to say, even in jest
she's an ignorant woman, yes, but her weight has nothing to do with that and to wish harm to her and her family(who also had nothing to do with what she said) makes you just as ignorant as she is
I know there will be people that argue it's her First Amendment right or she is just a young college student, but what about the frat boy in Oklahoma that made racial comments and got the entire fraternity kicked off campus and himself expelled. Don't tell me the school cannot hold their students to a high standard or in this case just a standard of decency. The right of free speech still comes with consequences. It does not mean you can say and do whatever you want with impunity. She is accountable for her speech and a code of conduct can and should be expected when getting an education from a state funded college.
Typical Tumblr/Twitter user. A fat, white, woman who claims to be a social justice warrior. We should just take her out.
seriously, that's your answer? shame on you.
Take her out? To dinner? I think that dinner is the last thing she needs.
Here we go again. Let's have another lesson in civics. First amendment free speech protects you from government censorship of your speech. That's it. NOWHERE in the first amendment is a person protected from being held accountable for what they say by other citizens, schools, business, and journalists. Free speech ends where the rights of others begin, full stop. A person has the right to live without a threat to their life. Anarchy is not the answer. Inciting the death of a person or celebrating their death (behind the safety of your keyboard, I might add) is the height of ignorance, cowardice, and makes you a pathetic human being. Sure, say what you want, but freedom of speech does not include a public institution of education from taking action against a person who violates rules and policies of school conduct. I wonder if you told the arresting officers that they deserved their deaths...
Actually, the First Amendment DOES preclude a public institution of education from taking action against Foy for her statement.
Unless you're in OK and say a racist chant, then you get expelled....?
What saddens me almost as much as this girl's ignorance is the number of people who,because they can't make a worthwhile argument, resort to commenting on her weight. What she did is, in fact, repugnant, but her lack of empathy or morality have nothing to do with what she looks like. Come on people, if you want to have any credibility what so ever, speak like you have a clue.
Your "sadness" is moral outrage, but you haven't the emotional intelligence to know the difference, or the intellectual honesty to tell the truth in discourse. Don't lecture the grown-ups about credibility.
I'm not sure why you've decided to attack me. I simply find it a sad statement on the intelligence of our society when the best argument towards clear moral ineptitude (as shown by this girl) is to attack something completely unrelated (her weight and appearance). Its called a straw man fallacy. That's the equivalent of saying "yo momma." Your attack of me is yet another example of someone who doesn't have the intelligence to form a cognizant argument so therefore resorts to name calling. Which, by the way, is yet another logical fallacy called an ad hominem attack.
Oh, and I'm so very sorry if I've used words you don't understand. I'm sure, once you figure out how to use the dictionary, you'll be able to look them up. But if that's too difficult for you, please let me know and I'll define the really tough ones for you.
I'm sorry. Do you not see your own hypocrisy? You point out the ignorance of attacking her for her appearance rather than the action. I agree with you up to that point. But you do so by attacking and insulting ther other individual. You must perpetrated the action for which you chastised them. I bet help but think that your actions are equally as ridiculous as those against which you rail and take humbrage.
I agree with what I believe is the main point of your comment jjinrr, that resorting to commenting on her weight as a means to counter her truly idiotic tweet imho, in facts brings the person commenting on her weight down to her level where she cites what she deems creepy eyes as a reason that he had to have done something to deserve being killed from behind while filling up on gas.
Whenever one resorts to using mere physical perception as a means to judge another's worth is showing their own intolerance for any that do not fit their ideals. Does one really have to resort to schoolyard taunts in countering arguments?
Perhaps the reason people point out her physical appearance is because of her comment that the murdered officer had "creepy perv eyes." She insulted the dead officer's appearance based on something entirely subjective....her own opinion of how his eyes looked and decided he was guilty of something and deserved to die because of that alone. People then see her and think "this fat cow is criticizing someone else for their eyes?!" I would say "pot calling the kettle black", but the officer isn't a black pot. He'd be more comparable to the silverware. She however is a black cauldron of hate. And if she does what the BLM movement (that she supports) is calling for now, she must go hang herself because they are calling for the lynching of all cops and whites. She's white, so I guess she needs to be lynched.
Fine point. But she's STILL a big fat stoopidy.
Hopefully the University will do nothing. She does have the right to free speech even if the speech was full of hate, ignorance and utter disregard for human life.
I do support the 1st Amendment and unlike the liberals who would want to have her banned if she said something the liberals didn't like.
Just let her be and she will have to deal with her comments for the rest of her life as this will be part of the internet and easily searchable in the future. No respectable employer would hire her at this point.
The school has a code of honor, which she voluntarily agreed to as a condition of admission. She violated that code. They have every right to mete out whatever punishment they deem appropriate for that. And her comments about being "your friendly local weed dealer", or her warrant for "assault causing injury." Take your pick, but she violated the school's code, and there are consequences for that.
The school cannot restrict freedom of speech especially when not connected with the school. She is a student and free to speak her mind even it it's ignorant which it clearly is.
You can be assured if she had supported the killing of Cecil the Lion, her free speech that liberals currently use to defend her would not have made one difference and she would have been expelled from school.
I wonder if lion meat is best broiled, BBQ'd or dried as jerky?
the scool it goes too is talking about throwing her out
I support free speech. I also support an avalanch of insults that should be lavished on this positively repulsive imitation of a human female.
Insults, yes. Consequences from her college? Inappropriate.
How awful. They need to kick her out of School...........Another thing when was the last time She looked in a Mirror.
She's a human zero. The officer who was murdered would have given his life to protect her worthless carcass, and all Foy can say is bad things about him. May she never have another good day for the rest of her life.